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gerri: to tht point, we have the debt ceiling looming. if we were to find a solution for the debt ceiling from whether it makes democrats or republicans happy, we haveome kind of resolution on the fiscal cliff. if we were to do the debt ceiling and take care of sequestration, do you think employers will start hiing? >> the best we could do would be to come up with a credible long-term plan. gerri: credible long-term plan on catol hill and the white house. are you kidding? >> u.s. you're right. the problem here is, betwe now and the nd of february is everyone goin to say, well, here is a we need to do? are they going to agree on it? the republicans, i think, have corrected said we have done something on taxes. we raised it for everybody who works to raise taxes for those nasty rich folk. now cut spending in order to get on a gravel path to reduce he deficit. >> we enacted the grast tax cut in american history. 25 million new jobs. the american economy had confidence in president reagan. in what direction was going to be. that is what is la
gerri: to tht point, we have the debt ceiling looming. if we were to find a solution for the debt ceiling from whether it makes democrats or republicans happy, we haveome kind of resolution on the fiscal cliff. if we were to do the debt ceiling and take care of sequestration, do you think employers will start hiing? >> the best we could do would be to come up with a credible long-term plan. gerri: credible long-term plan on catol hill and the white house. are you kidding? >> u.s....
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two more problems coming up, the debt ceiling. and just this week people are getting paychecks for the first time that include that 2 percent increase in apparel tax. what the people make of this? >> a lot of people will be shocked because they remember the president saying, f you make less than $250,000 i guarantee you won't pay one more dime in taxes. well, they're paying lots of times and increased tax. a person making tricky thousand dollars is pro we going to be on the cross $1,600 additional money. if you're making 50,000, you don't have $1,600 of disposable income to give the government so they can waisted and borrow more money. it's going to it people hard. add to that the obamacare tax and then what states and local governments to doing. the economy will be in a world of hurt this year. gerri: and we can have a big tax resolution. the point that people really start seeing the impact of this, they may go with their feet and make calls to congress. who knows what's going to happen >> i do think that there is going to be a r
two more problems coming up, the debt ceiling. and just this week people are getting paychecks for the first time that include that 2 percent increase in apparel tax. what the people make of this? >> a lot of people will be shocked because they remember the president saying, f you make less than $250,000 i guarantee you won't pay one more dime in taxes. well, they're paying lots of times and increased tax. a person making tricky thousand dollars is pro we going to be on the cross $1,600...
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deal with the debt ceiling? >> the fiscal cliff did not fix the debt. is this tax policy or fixing in debt and deficit? and but i was a big supporter to say we got it deal with debt and deficit. >> you voted against the fiscal cliff? >> we have three saying scram together by the senate and the presidency. the debt ceiling, and the sequestration also a continuing resolution. of three moments are a good moment to do with spending but they are very different. sequestration is we will cut spending $100 billion. >> what i asked is can we trust congress to do the right thing when it comes to the debt ceiling? seventy-seven% of the people say washington d.c. is hurting the nation. folks are on to the game how likely is you can solve the debt ceiling issue and also save money? >> that will complete the depend on everybody coming to the table. we have the senate that things one thing in the house that thinks something different to. and tell there on the same page it is tough. the senate has not passed a budget in four years? it makes it difficult to do a budget
deal with the debt ceiling? >> the fiscal cliff did not fix the debt. is this tax policy or fixing in debt and deficit? and but i was a big supporter to say we got it deal with debt and deficit. >> you voted against the fiscal cliff? >> we have three saying scram together by the senate and the presidency. the debt ceiling, and the sequestration also a continuing resolution. of three moments are a good moment to do with spending but they are very different. sequestration is we...
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might be crashing through the debt ceiling soon and that we thought. for more honest and republican congressman james langford of obama. welcome back to the show. always good to see you. >> thank you. glad to be with you. gerri: the cbo is saying that we are on track to rack up our fifth year of a trillion dollar plus debt, and already deficits and this year alone the fiscal year alone, $2,903,000,000,000 in deficits just in this first quarter. tell me, can the american people trust congress to fix this problem with a -- fix the fiscal cliff and deal with the debt ceiling? >> the fiscal clefted not fix the debt, and that was the big debate during the fiscal of conversation. is this affecting tax policy or is this about trying to pixar debt and deficit. there was a group that said let's fix the tax policy in deal with the deficit later. as supporters sang, we must deal with the debt and deficit which is the bigger issue. gerri: you voted against it. >> i did. gerri: what can we do about this? what can we do about this? >> well, we have three things. peo
might be crashing through the debt ceiling soon and that we thought. for more honest and republican congressman james langford of obama. welcome back to the show. always good to see you. >> thank you. glad to be with you. gerri: the cbo is saying that we are on track to rack up our fifth year of a trillion dollar plus debt, and already deficits and this year alone the fiscal year alone, $2,903,000,000,000 in deficits just in this first quarter. tell me, can the american people trust...
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let's move on to a our debt and our nation's crisis with the debt ceiling. we default on february 15th. happy valentine's day. doug come -- doug, do you think we will avoid this or have big problems? >> at think the answer is simple. we don't have a fight or a crisis over the debt ceiling. we have a fight in crisis overspending that causes debt. if the spending or cut and there was an agreement but place on the way to rein in explosive and -- entitlement spending and brought the debt under control, no one would even mention the debt ceiling. the key will be to focus on the real problem, which is the debt. acknowledge solution for anyone not living in budgetary fantasyland. make some progress on that. gerri: at think it's budget fantasyland for us. well, the senate has not backed the budget in 1,351 days, gretchen. come on. we are going to -- our debt is going to get downgraded by standard and poor's and moody's and everyone else, and we will have a sell-off of 2,000 points in the stock market, right? >> you're right. on top of not having a budget, we have al
let's move on to a our debt and our nation's crisis with the debt ceiling. we default on february 15th. happy valentine's day. doug come -- doug, do you think we will avoid this or have big problems? >> at think the answer is simple. we don't have a fight or a crisis over the debt ceiling. we have a fight in crisis overspending that causes debt. if the spending or cut and there was an agreement but place on the way to rein in explosive and -- entitlement spending and brought the debt...
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. >> they need to raise the debt ceiling, but if we don't raise it without a plan to get out of debt, while the should be fired. >> even to get rid of some of the special interest tax rates,. >> if you are a republican trying to get good media coverage, you're playing the wrong bit game. that is the only time that you have leverage. if you don't raise the debt ceiling right away, it's not defaulting on their loans. the treasury secretary can cut other spending. it is basically a government shutdown. republicans have lost that in the past. but i think unless there is something that the president has to lose, you don't have any leverage in the spending cuts. gerri: you know, the far left and far right will think that that -- well, the different analyses of what happened. they think will lives lost in the last debate what do you make of that? the republicans were in a much weaker bargaining position. what speaker boehner was doing anything that taxes went up at midnight on december 31. he actually got a tax cut compared where would've been. everybody else was going to get higher income t
. >> they need to raise the debt ceiling, but if we don't raise it without a plan to get out of debt, while the should be fired. >> even to get rid of some of the special interest tax rates,. >> if you are a republican trying to get good media coverage, you're playing the wrong bit game. that is the only time that you have leverage. if you don't raise the debt ceiling right away, it's not defaulting on their loans. the treasury secretary can cut other spending. it is basically...
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gerri: you bring a degree point because the first time we had the debt ceiling issue, which is the one now looming in congress, we saved 2,000 points of the stock market. it did not last, thankfully, but it was scary. it may allow the people uneasy. we will -- will leave be in for the same type of problem if we get right up to that deadline and no agreement? >> yes. yes. and that is why we are all annoyed and hopeful that congress will learn a lesson and not do a test again because all they're doing getting in our way causing a lot of banks and warrior necessarily for the american public and investors or a wide. gerri: a broader question. you're a smart guy and you watch all this stuff. one of the things the we're waiting for, listening tour, s&p, moody's, downgrade are dead again, what will happen? we will be the ramifications? how will that hit individual investor portfolios? >> there is a risk that traditionally when they're is a downgrade of a bond rating the value of the bond goes down as well, which means if you own u.s. government securities you're going to suffer a loss of valu
gerri: you bring a degree point because the first time we had the debt ceiling issue, which is the one now looming in congress, we saved 2,000 points of the stock market. it did not last, thankfully, but it was scary. it may allow the people uneasy. we will -- will leave be in for the same type of problem if we get right up to that deadline and no agreement? >> yes. yes. and that is why we are all annoyed and hopeful that congress will learn a lesson and not do a test again because all...